The London Bus Page In Exile

Saturday 27 January 2007

Edmonton Green bus station opens

Filed under: Facilities — londonbuspageinexile @ 10:14 pm

First Capital Dennis Trident TN 32852 (T852 LLC) at the new Edmonton Green bus station, 27th January 2007
A while ago I posted about Edmonton Green bus station – well, the new one is open at last, so I went to see what I could see.

Shifted north ever so slightly so that the entrance is actually on the roundabout, the new bus station combines the ‘Bedouin’ design of Stratford with the layout of Walthamstow and Turnpike Lane, with pinched entrance and exit and a large area in between for terminating buses to stand. The migration is to accommodate a new building, with new shops and restaurants giving the area a somewhat more upmarket feel than perhaps it had been used to, with the excellent market still reachable but now through something of a canyon between the new buildings. To this end, maybe the designers haven’t given enough thought to how pedestrians were going to be using the bus station, because when I visited most of them were milling across the bus exit lane in a straight line, with an official on a PA having to shout increasingly irritable admonishments at them to cease and desist (not to mention two cyclists, who cheerfully ignored the instructions not to ride within the bus station!). People don’t like being herded off the straight line, and I hope that no accidents turn an otherwise promising beginning into a North Finchley-type farce (where the reconstructed bus station was open for only a few weeks before a fatal accident involving a 221 bus forced its closure, which remains the case nearly a year later).

Routes 191, 192 and W6 are probably the easiest to photograph at today’s Edmonton Green, as their stands are unimpeded, and accordingly here is First Capital’s Northumberland Park-based Dennis Trident TN 32852 (T852 LLC), with its willow leaves removed but the upper half still bearing the yellow band that was part of this discontinued livery.


  1. Hi, just to let you know that the yellow first logos next to the main blind box these are now being removed, also the fleet name will be just ‘First’ there will be no more ‘First London’ or ‘First Capital’ this is to TfL repaint specs. this is the same with Arriva fleetnames, they have to remove ‘Serving London’

    Comment by Richard — Sunday 28 January 2007 @ 9:25 pm

  2. How peety is that? That’s just stupid

    Comment by Arriva436 — Monday 29 January 2007 @ 4:04 pm

  3. That’s stupid. So petty. TfL should be slightly more lax

    Comment by Arriva436 — Monday 29 January 2007 @ 4:06 pm

  4. That is so petty, stupid.

    Comment by Arriva436 — Monday 29 January 2007 @ 4:08 pm

  5. Is it any more stupid than having ‘Arriva Serving The Shires’ on 268 or H routes? or ‘Arriva Serving Kent Thameside’ on the 162, 286 etc.?

    Comment by Simon — Monday 29 January 2007 @ 8:02 pm

  6. At least the 162 and 286 serves Kent, may not be Thameside but still Kent. Im gonna take a lil trip to Edmonton now that it aint all rubble etc.

    Comment by Martin — Monday 29 January 2007 @ 8:33 pm

  7. Completely O/T, for which apologies.

    Rode the 46 extension to-day, an eastbound bus, in soltary splendour from Paddington to Warwick Avenue (where it used to start/finish).

    No local publicity whatsoever – I’ve written to TfL about it – I’ll share the doubtless self-pitying reply with you all when I get it…

    Comment by Innocent Abroad — Tuesday 30 January 2007 @ 4:20 pm

  8. First lost Route 7 to Metroline, but I think that both companies are as bad as each other.

    Comment by Tom — Saturday 3 February 2007 @ 1:42 pm

  9. [7] As promised:

    Route 46 Extension

    Thank you for email about the above. I am grateful for the time you have taken to get in touch.

    I am glad you are finding the extension of this route useful. For this service change we produced notices which were displayed in bus stops, posters which were displayed in bus shelters and also sent out an email to all oyster card holders on route 46.

    We did not produce a route leaflet on this occasion as the service change did not fit the criteria, and we do not usually produce leaflets for routes that serve Central London.

    Once again, thank your for writing. If I can be of any help in the future, please feel free to contact me again.

    Yours sincerely

    Matthew Van der Waals
    Customer Services

    In which case I suppose I’d better enjoy the extension while I can, it won’t last long on current levels of patronage.

    Comment by Innocent Abroad — Friday 9 February 2007 @ 3:37 pm

  10. Can’t understand the comment “no local publicity whatsoever” [for the 46 extension]. Certainly on the first day there were notices on bus stops, timetables, route no 46 on bus stops, the maps I saw already included the route and, very unsual!, were large adverts on the bus shelters. Has all this publicity been removed?

    Comment by Morris — Saturday 10 February 2007 @ 2:46 pm

  11. [10] Well, I live five minutes’ walk from Eastbourne Terrace, Paddington and the only way I knew about the extension was from enthusiasts’ websites. Depends on how local local is, I suppose. I also find the equating of registered Oystercard holders with “all” holders in Van der Waals’ letter bizarre.

    Quite why I should register my Oyster when I still have to go to a tube station to get it topped up, when I can do a cash top up far more conveniently at a newsagent, I’ve no idea. Do TfL think the queues at tube station booking offices are too short?

    Comment by Innocent Abroad — Sunday 11 February 2007 @ 9:18 pm

  12. Sorry, this is getting very OT re Edmonton Green (!) but I am interested in publicity.
    Presumably TfL promoted route 46’s extension via its usual channels which I imagine use local press, email and web. Obviously adverts were posted on bus stops and bus shelters along the route. Am I right in thinking that adverts no longer appear on buses? I didn’t think leaflets were produced at all now but the Customer Services reply above implies that they are produced sometimes, but not in central London?
    Where else should/could changes to bus routes be advertised?


    PS – Just checked previous comments (before posting) and see that NONE are relevent to Edmonton Green Bus Station! (so don’t feel so bad now!) I have to say that it IS much nicer than the old arrangement of bus shelters, even though there is a slightly longer walk from the shops. All the publicity photos I’ve seen are taken fom the end which makes it look very sinister and bat-like.

    Comment by Morris — Sunday 18 February 2007 @ 12:50 am

  13. TfL always used to provide leaflets for central London routes, I certainly have some for routes like the 9,10,11 etc..

    I haven’t seen a route leaflet for a long time thought, so was under the impression that they had stopped producing them. The last one I saw was for the changes to the 21/29/329/N29 when the 29 went bendy.

    I know that they have stopped producing the A5 sized Local Journey Planner. A great shame because I thought these booklets were excellent.

    Comment by GJ — Sunday 18 February 2007 @ 11:18 am

  14. This bus station just reminds me of Turnpike Lane Bus Station by the way the bend is. But with buses in Edmonton I think they should lose them Tridents and put brand new EnviroDD buses in there and make Edmonton a popular place to go. And for the shopping centre there well its all gonna be a lie cause they said theres gonna be a HMV and Burger King. well Tesco is gonna close down anyway cause of the Asda opening up

    Comment by Dean Manley — Monday 30 April 2007 @ 11:33 am

  15. you think that bus station is bad?
    Cambridge council would kill to get a station like that! we have a small station that is constantly full of construction vehicles, and is always full, so buses have to wait on the road outside when others are reversing. Unfortunately the street outside is also used by lots of buses and taxis, and has two narrow sharp corners in it…and is only three lanes wide, meaning buses have to squeeze past each other all the time. As a result, the only cars you get down there belong to lost tourists.

    Comment by Gene Hunt — Saturday 20 October 2007 @ 9:28 pm

  16. i think that arriva should keep the serving london bit

    Comment by justinsmth — Thursday 29 November 2007 @ 1:55 pm

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