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Tuesday 20 February 2007

LVs Survive!

Filed under: Companies, Historical, Travels, Vehicles — londonbuspageinexile @ 8:57 pm

Diamond Bus Dennis Lance 368 (L942 RJN) in Birmingham, 16th November 2006 During the early 1990s London Buses Limited experimented with the full-size single-decker now that these vehicles were coming back into fashion. 59 Dennis Lances were taken, to the following combinations:

  • LA 1-16 (J101-110, 411, 112-116 WSC) – Alexander PS bodywork, for the 36B at Catford (Selkent).
  • LN 1-31 (K301-331 YJA) – Northern Counties Paladin bodywork, for the 113 at Cricklewood and the 302 at Willesden (Metroline).
  • LV 1-12 (L201-212 YAG) – Plaxton Verde bodywork, for the southern half of the 208 at Catford (Selkent).

It’s the third of these classes that I’m picturing today in the form of LV 12. After spending three years on the Catford to Orpington section of the 208 with its eleven siblings, it was transferred to Bromley on 8th November 1997 and took over the 227, a far better route for these ungainly but surprisingly amenable buses. All-red repaints replaced the superb Selkent livery not long after privatisation under Stagecoach, and withdrawal occurred in 2000 after just six years. Stagecoach South took on the class, soon cascading them to what is better known as Ribble – but then disaster struck! On 8th January 2005 flooding of the River Eden inundated the Stagecoach garage at Carlisle, submerging all twelve former LVs up to seat level. Early reports were saying that over eighty buses would have to be scrapped, including some brand-new Darts, but as it turned out all that was required was a thorough hosing down and refurbishment and they were good as new. Having already been subjected to two changes of registration (from L212 YAG to WLT 461 soon after delivery, and thence to L942 RJN in March 2000) LV 12 pitched up with Diamond Bus, becoming its 368. It is seen in Birmingham on 16th November 2005; other examples of the LV class can be sighted in Walsall, working for A2Z.


  1. Hi matt,

    Completely O/T, but i feel this is as good a place as any to say this.

    I love the new format, it’s great being able to share opinions and ideas with like minded folk.
    It’s just at the moment it seems a bit negative, particularly against TfL (and i know i’ve contributed a bit towards this). Personally i think they generally do a great job, marred by a few big mistakes (getting rid of the Routemaster, introducing bendies etc)
    It would be nice if you could post an article about one, (or some!) of their successes. I had in mind the 148, which i think is almost the best thing since sliced bread.
    But hey, it’s your site and i’m sure you must have something good to say about TfL!!!?

    Comment by ejc — Friday 23 February 2007 @ 12:54 am

  2. Blimey ejc! I know nobody loves the LV(it seems?) – but to ask MW to say something nice about our friends @ TfL…..that’s just going too far!?!?! ps: only joking.

    Comment by I'm The Daddy Now.... — Friday 23 February 2007 @ 9:49 pm

  3. Hi guys, At one stage, did some of these lances go to Stagecoach – East London and used on the 145, 150 & 169 route for a short while, I beleive they to East London to be repaired / re-spray at Leyton garage {T}, if anyone can help with any info, that will be great.

    Comment by Richard — Saturday 24 February 2007 @ 6:41 pm

  4. About 7 years ago, I was an (on loan) driver at Stagecoach East Kent Thanet depot. They had at least 1 LV there at the time – I never got to drive it though………….damn!

    Comment by I'm The Daddy Now.... — Sunday 15 April 2007 @ 10:58 am

  5. It was the LAs that went to Barking, specifically for the 145 in the summer of 1995; they all then went to Bolton (Ribble) at the start of 1997.

    Comment by londonbuspageinexile — Sunday 15 April 2007 @ 8:37 pm

  6. A friend of mine has preserved LN 5 – Look out for it at the rest of this year’s shows; he wanted an RM, but we told him that one or two of that type have been preserved already !!

    Comment by Stuart Boxall — Friday 25 May 2007 @ 9:42 pm

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