The London Bus Page In Exile

Saturday 10 March 2007

New Darts for Epsom Buses’ S1

Filed under: Companies, Routes, Vehicles — londonbuspageinexile @ 10:17 pm

Epsom Buses Dennis Dart SD 46 (PE56 UFL) at Sutton, Saturday 10th March 2007 New East Lancs-bodied Darts have entered service on the S1 (Mitcham-Banstead) from Epsom Buses (who trade as Quality Line). That is, I think they’re Darts… the split between the last of the Darts and the first of the Enviro200Darts now going into production is a little confusing.
The Esteem body is considerably more attractive than its competition at the moment, particularly on the Scania OmniTown, but on these Darts falls down somewhat in that they’ve extended the fairing downwards to cover the wheelchair ramp (which is slung underneath in a cassette), meaning that the front bumper and the side panels don’t match – they look a bit like the Wilts & Dorset Bristol LHs with the enormous cutout to enable them to come on and off the Swanage ferry!
Compare brand new SD 46 (PE56 UFL) with an earlier East Lancs-bodied Dart, SD 41 (PL05 PLV) as both come round the Sutton one-way system at ten past four.



    Comment by RICHARD — Saturday 10 March 2007 @ 10:57 pm

  2. Hi Matt, can you do a mention on routes H9 & H15 [Theses are routemastere routes]
    Many thanks, Sinknote to all of my colleagues at Sainsburys at ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    Comment by Mark — Saturday 10 March 2007 @ 11:03 pm

  3. The sitation with Darts/Enviro 200s and Mylleniums/Esteems is ridiculous. Both manafactures shold have both stopped making the old models and started with the new – not made some half Dart half E200 with Esteem front and backs and Myllenium bodywork…

    Comment by Arriva436 — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 9:56 am

  4. Did you know?……..Quality Line are the only company in London(The UK?) to insist their drivers wear ties all year round – even during any heatwave that may occur! Their justification for this?……ALL(?) their buses are fitted with driver’s air-conditioning. Not a lot of people know that……..!

    Comment by I'm The Daddy Now.... — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 11:22 am

  5. They are the first Enviro 200Darts (not just Darts, I think that London’s last new Darts are the ones with Arriva Shires) with East Lancs Esteem bodywork. All the Metrobus ones are Darts or Omnitowns.

    Comment by Chris — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 11:23 am

  6. #3, the half bodywork is only with Metrobus.

    Comment by Chris — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 11:25 am

  7. They were also very late, I think this was because the drivers had to be trained with them. The S1 is a route which is not really suitable for buses longer than MPDs as there are many parked cars along the roads it goes down and also the roads are narrow.

    Comment by Chris — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 11:32 am

  8. Totally off topic, and for that I appologise, but with the mention of RM’s, I couldn’t help but post.

    We would all like to see the Routemaster routes extended and runnning later, but the reality is that this is not going to happen. We just have to be greatful for what we have got.

    I was in town yesterday, just looking around and taking a few photo’s. I was waiting in the Strand where this young boy, about 6, was waiting with his dad for a heritage 9. We got on, and the young kid was so excited to be on a Routemaster. About 3 of us, a elderly gentleman and a young black lad started having a laugh and a joke about it, along with the young lad’s Father.

    The point I am trying to make is that people talk to each other and the conductor on the RM’s, no matter what their age or race. On any other bus, you just sit there by yourself while everyone listens to their i-pods.

    This is something that I really miss, and is a shame. I got off the 9 at Hyde Park Corner with a smile on my face.

    Comment by GJ — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 12:18 pm

  9. Rather than Bristol REs, do you perchance mean the Bristol LHs of Wilts & Dorset fame, as used on the services to Swanage?

    Comment by busing — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 7:06 pm


    wIth the mention of the wonderful buses I thought I would bring to your attention this.

    Comment by Neil Mclean — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 8:52 pm

  11. I’m surprised no one has mentioned the interiors….. The front bulkhead extends so far into the bus that the ‘bus stopping’ sign is almost halfway down the bus. Come on photographers, take some interior forward facing pics to show everyone!

    Comment by Simon — Sunday 11 March 2007 @ 10:38 pm

  12. Not that they are very big anyway, only 9.4m (shortest with dual door)

    Comment by Chris — Monday 12 March 2007 @ 9:34 am

  13. An interesting(?) fact about Epsom Buses(Quality Line) – they don’t allow their drivers to take their ties off, EVEN IN HOT WEATHER! They get round this, by fitting driver’s cab air-conditioning to ALL their buses. Fair,…or unfair?

    Comment by I'm The Daddy Now.... — Sunday 15 April 2007 @ 10:53 am

  14. One thing that is noticeable on these buses is the lack of a full size rear window and the huge amount of space taken for the rear route blind. The seating positions aren’t very good (especially on the dual-door ones) as well

    Comment by chris — Friday 8 June 2007 @ 4:50 pm


    Comment by epsom driver — Friday 19 September 2008 @ 8:52 pm

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