The London Bus Page In Exile

Sunday 24 June 2007

7 Changes Hands, 297 Doesn’t

Filed under: Companies, Routes, Service Changes, Vehicles — londonbuspageinexile @ 12:03 pm

Metroline's hired First TNL 32905 (W905 VLN) at Wembley Park Metroline's hired First TAL 32941 (W941 ULL) at Ealing Broadway
Metroline TP 298 (LR02 BFJ) at East Acton Metroline TPL 242 (LN51 KXV) at Marble Arch

The 7 duly passed from First to Metroline on Saturday 23rd June, but with its Scanias not ready yet, the real interest of the day lay in the route that supplied the 7’s temporary batch of TPs – the 297. This fellow Perivale-based route saw a mix of TALs and TNLs hired from First plus a couple of Metroline’s own TPLs pulled from the iBus float.

The sceptic in me would wonder if the fact that the 297’s service crumbled during the day swung public opinion against ‘First’, the name on the buses (and not removed, as is usually done during hires). The poor passenger tends to curse the operator without knowing the reason why the service is the way it is. It’s taken a long, long time for the blame to be heaped upon whoever runs the companies rather than ‘London Transport’, but the divide and rule thing didn’t work in 1986 and still doesn’t today. Companies are more and more willing to co-operate by hiring vehicles back and forth, like today, and the pettiness of refusing entry to ‘enemy’ garages as termini is falling away (though the 33’s withdrawal away from Fulwell garage when transferred to NCP severed an important link in that area), so there ought to be less objection to just doing the decent thing and reunifying what never should have been split asunder in the first place.

Poor old First have been battered in the tendering stakes as it is and the 7 is a severe loss, but Westbourne Park is bursting with buses and will appreciate the space. After helping out on the 297 (and perhaps the 460, though there wasn’t any evidence of that today), the TALs at least will be heading off to Glasgow, a city where the passengers mete out even more vicious treatment against their buses than London! And by next week the first few Scanias should be in service on the 7.

Covering the 297 are TNL 32905 (W905 VLN) at Wembley Park and TNA 32941 (W941 ULL) at Ealing Broadway, while inaugurating the 7 are TP 298 (LR02 BFJ) at East Acton and TPL 242 (LN51 KXV) at Marble Arch.



  1. Is it only the TNA and not the TNL that are going to Glasgow, and what routes in Glasgow are they going on.

    Matt would it be possible to have a review or some pictures of the buses, once they have moved and settled in Glasgow just to see how they are getting on and if they have been repainted.

    Thank you.

    Comment by Tom — Monday 25 June 2007 @ 10:26 pm

  2. Found some photo’s of Scania N230UD’s being fitted for metroline:

    Could these be the ones that are going to be used on the 7 route ?

    Comment by Anon — Wednesday 4 July 2007 @ 11:17 am

  3. Did you see how some of the TNs transferred to Glasgow were single-doored so cheaply – it looked so wrong.

    Comment by Chris — Thursday 2 August 2007 @ 1:38 pm

  4. The innovation of the Montfort have MontfortTV, disability. Extended standing companion will be increased from 12 to 23 in lower deck.
    In early 2007, Montfort everyday bought 23 to route 8 (becomes route 42/42A). They had new EDS. They have new sliding door instead of compatible door. It was the first one to operate 10.5m bus more than 10m. They had modified bodies by Kylein Buses or East Lancs Buses and then subsequently had “SEATS ALLOCATED” including fitted with new ticket printers, advertisements and hand grips, new outsing/plug doors.
    Another 14 will give you 37 and 14 will be installed on route 41 which would replaced Scheme B route 641 buses. They fitted with East Lancs Buses, and part of Euro IV in mid 2007. Front handgrips are the same as London ones, plus the same as (Montfort Buses have 23 buses). Subsequently, it painted all over red with advertisement on it. They had no black screens.
    Subsequently, Tampines Primary added Kylein & East Lancs Olympus brands using Scania N230UD

    Comment by Timothy Mok Chuang Jie — Sunday 19 August 2007 @ 12:19 pm

  5. Does anyone know why Metroline have suddenly started taking Scania’s instead of their usual Tridents or Volvo’s. Have they really gone off the Enviro 400 that quickly!?
    Not that i’m complaining- the Scania’s are so much more interesting than the below-par Enviro’s…. Still not a patch on the Wright Eclipse (or Pulsar let us not forget) Gemini though….

    Comment by ejc — Wednesday 22 August 2007 @ 2:34 am

  6. There are BlueStar buses for Montfort they use on 42 and 42A. So suddenly they painted blue and white.

    Comment by Timothy Mok Chuang Jie — Friday 24 August 2007 @ 2:18 pm

  7. Renaming from “Montfort Buses” to standard “Metroline” is not good.

    Comment by Timothy Mok Chuang Jie — Friday 24 August 2007 @ 2:20 pm

  8. Does this called “BlueStar to the Montfort”, as there will be below-par. Some TNs will be again transferred to Scheme B.
    Do you thing that TNA given to Scheme B and TNL will be preserved to TPS?

    Comment by Montfort Buses — Sunday 26 August 2007 @ 11:27 am

  9. The information you do as TNA and TNL given to Sentosa Buses to replace some?

    Comment by Montfort Buses — Friday 31 August 2007 @ 11:23 am

  10. In that case, the buses might be purchased back to Singapore. Yes.

    Comment by Clara Buses — Friday 18 January 2008 @ 1:17 pm

  11. I hate driving the tn’s and tna’s. Vn’s and Vnl’s are not too bad, but the best is the new VNW’s. Its comfort for the driver and you dont have to strugglw ith the controls and its quite a good seating position. I develpoed a hernia from driving the TN’s. True say they are quite quick and the process of closing the doors and driving off is quite quick. But they are old fashioned and too hard to drive. In our garage people fight to get the newer buses as the old ones keep breaking down.

    Comment by s.khan — Wednesday 15 October 2008 @ 11:25 am

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