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Thursday 18 October 2007

New Route 332

Filed under: Routes, Service Changes — londonbuspageinexile @ 7:46 pm

Metroline Enviro400 TE 835 (LK57 AXP) at Paddington, 14th October 2007 

New route 332 was introduced last Saturday; operated by new Enviro400s from Metroline’s Cricklewood garage (or the temporary outstation across the road, at least), it links Paddington (not Marylebone as I said the other day – sorry about that) with Neasden, via the 16 and 316.

Here leaving Paddington on Sunday 14th October is TE 835 (LK57 AXP).

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20 Comments »

  1. Enviro400s look very smart in the Metroline Livery-apart from that boring expanse of red along the side…..

    Comment by Gene Hunt — Friday 19 October 2007 @ 1:06 pm

  2. Boring expanse of red gene!!!!
    Yeah ok, get rid of the silly metroline logo, then they need some gold LT lettering or a white roundel!!

    Anyway, the route runs near my parents in Paddington, so I got a couple of snaps of them on this lovely autumn day [sun 21st].
    I really like these enviro’s.
    Not quite sure what advantage this new route will be though. It hits some very bad traffic in Kilburn [took my father well over an hour to Neasden the other day!].

    Comment by bill — Sunday 21 October 2007 @ 7:51 pm

  3. Try Copenhagen for horrible all-over yellow, or every Italian town for hideous all-over orange and you’ll be crying for red with Metroline logo!

    Comment by Steve23589 — Monday 22 October 2007 @ 9:37 pm

  4. I do like the ‘yellow’ livery on the Berlin fleet [I’m sure Isarsteve would agree!]. Not sure about Copenhagen.
    I don’t mind that ‘Italian’ orange! Though I prefer the Geneve livery.

    Comment by bill — Tuesday 23 October 2007 @ 10:05 am

  5. bill, what I meant is that the blue bis look smart…but the rest of the bus is boring….what is needed is a livery like transdevs with the white window surrounds and grey bumpers…looked much better!

    Comment by Gene Hunt — Wednesday 24 October 2007 @ 1:07 pm

  6. #4 you guessed right Bill.

    Thanks for the mention 🙂

    Comment by IsarSteve — Wednesday 24 October 2007 @ 10:01 pm

  7. Isn’t the new 332 a complete waste of money? What does it achieve that a double-decked 316, and an increased frequency on the 16 couldn’t. It seems like a new route has been created just for the sake of it. I’d be interested to know what the loadings are like, or if it’s just another of TfL’s white elephants like the unused and unloved 452.

    Another of these seemingly pointless new routes is due here in south London early next year, the 415. It will run from Tulse Hill to the Elephant via Brixton and the Oval, replacing the 333 which is to be diverted via Stockwell.
    Whilst i’m sure the diversion of the 333 is a good idea, could a replacement not have been achieved by simply extending the existing 432 from Brixton? The 432 is also due to get a frequency cut at the same time, so passengers travelling between Anerley, Crystal Palace and Norwood will have less buses. All this in the name of progress…

    Comment by ejc — Thursday 25 October 2007 @ 9:35 am

  8. #7, it is about extending the 316 to White City when the shopping centre opens. What is the point of the 415 anyway?, it seems rather unecessary unless the reason is that the 432 is underused around Norwood?

    Comment by ctrh136 — Thursday 25 October 2007 @ 4:16 pm

  9. #4 and #6 – I agree, Berlin’s livery works well.

    #5 – personally I though the old London United livery was starting to look a bit dated.

    What’s really needed is a brand-new modern eye-catching livery fit for London’s World City status. Red-based, of course!!!

    Comment by Steve23589 — Thursday 25 October 2007 @ 10:16 pm

  10. #9 I never liked the London United livery much.. it was too “retro” for my tastes and the result was twee looking vehicles..

    Maybe “Red” is the problem and not the blue or other colours.. Maybe a more up-to-date “red tone” might do the trick?
    I’ve seen this done by other operators, some previously very conservative, and it works really well.. Perhaps the “London Red” is just too old-fashioned?
    And silver wheels are really out as far as I’m concerned.. they just look too cheap and nasty.. we are talking about buses here.. not ford cortinas!! IMO dark grey is much better..

    Comment by IsarSteve — Thursday 25 October 2007 @ 11:07 pm

  11. #8, if the 316 was double-decked it could easily run White City- Brent Park without the need to create the 332 to help.
    The point is that the 415 is (will be) pointless! If the 432 is underused, and extension along the busy Brixton- Elephant corridor is the perfect way to get it making money!

    #10, I like the current London United livery. A nice plain grey skirt, just like LT in the 1990’s! It looks smart and neat on most of their buses (VP/VPL excluded).

    Comment by ejc — Friday 26 October 2007 @ 11:45 am

  12. #11, I thought that would be the only reason – I’ve never been on the 432 so I thought that it would be a reason to reduce the freq. of it. #7, when I went on the 332 recently it was pretty empty (although there were 2 together). I wish that drivers would stop having attitude problems, the driver blocked the road at some temporary lights (as someone else jumpede them) and wasted my time for 5 mins.

    Comment by ctrh136 — Sunday 28 October 2007 @ 1:02 pm

  13. The 432 is fairly lightly used between West Norwood and Anerley, but the 2 already provides a very frequent service West Norwood-Tulse Hill-Brixton, so the new 415 seems unnecessary – there are loads of buses running north from Brixton through Kennington, so many that it’s often hard for them to find space to stop outside Brixton tube!

    Comment by TD — Monday 29 October 2007 @ 8:19 pm

  14. Comment on one of the recent flickr photos (not sure where to put this) – I’ve been on the 95 twice recently and i have seen no need for double deckers.

    Comment by ctrh136 — Saturday 3 November 2007 @ 12:07 pm

  15. One new open-topper:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7077725.stm

    It looks like an E400

    Comment by Arriva436 — Sunday 4 November 2007 @ 3:36 pm

  16. #15 – maybe they’ve gpt too many Enviro’s what with losing the 24, and didn’t know what to do with them!

    Comment by Russell — Sunday 4 November 2007 @ 11:27 pm

  17. #16 – Yeah, sell them to Arriva OLST!!!!!

    Comment by Arriva436 — Monday 5 November 2007 @ 5:00 pm

  18. What is interesting from the photo is that the front pillars appeared to stand up well, thus offering some protection were there any passengers, with the rest of the upper deck shearing off above the window sills, thus minimising any enchroachment of debris into the saloon.

    Comment by Steve23589 — Wednesday 7 November 2007 @ 8:40 pm

  19. I think that the bus is too curvy for my liking it looks like a new version of a routemaster by the shape of it. even though I just recieved some of these enviro400 on the route 102 which looks very original in arriva livery. I prefer the Volvo Wright Eclipses better as well.

    Comment by Dean Manley — Thursday 8 May 2008 @ 3:08 pm

  20. I love those curves! And if it resembles an RM in any way surely that isn’t a bad thing…!!!
    The Volvo eclipses are ok from the front, but not from the side! Well in my humble anyway….

    More enviros please!

    Comment by bill — Friday 16 May 2008 @ 11:04 pm


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